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13 years 4 months ago #61282 by Matt
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I have been building my site for months now using K2 and today - when I almost finished - to my surprise I realized that K2 has been building a lot of duplicated URLs. The guys over at anything-digital said that it's a K2 issue and not a sh404SEF issue, which is cleary true.

First the damn tags are producing a duplicated URL every time an article has been posted with already an existend tag. This describes it pretty well .

This issue is not new to K2, related threads has been posted in the past with not so useful solutions.

See here and here .

Then I get duplicated URLs on menu items, for instance
index.php?option=com_k2&Itemid=117&id=1&lang=de&layout=category&task=category&view=itemlist 

index.php?option=com_k2&Itemid=117&id=1&lang=de&task=category&view=itemlist

It's very frustrating and sad that the official K2 developers haven't properly addressed this serious issue since years. At this point K2 is simply not SEO-friendly. If this issue won't be addressed this time, I'm afraid I have to say goodbye to K2 and write an appropriate review over at the extensions directory.

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13 years 4 months ago - 13 years 4 months ago #61283 by Joakim
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I have a similar problem, also with sh404sef.

Every time I create a new article, the modules (on the right side in my case) doesn't show.
I have to manually tell sh404sef to add them (by writing correct url with itemid) each time. Sure, that works, but it's some job to do as it also means I have to add them to tags etc.

Has anyone had this problem?

Edit:
Found this solution but I would rather find a solution without making changes in code (as it will disappear when I upgrade)

1. Go to modules/mod_k2_tools/tmpl/search.php

and add this line in front inside of some php:

$Itemid = JRequest::getInt( ‘Itemid’);

then on line 16 change this:

<form action=”<?php echo JRoute::_(‘index.php?option=com_k2&view=itemlist&task=search’); ?>” method=”get”>

to:

<form action=”<?php echo JRoute::_(‘index.php?option=com_k2&view=itemlist&task=search&Itemid=’.$Itemid); ?>” method=”get”>

2. Go to components/com_k2/helpers/route.php

on line 111 you see this:
$link = 'index.php?option=com_k2&view=itemlist&task=tag&tag='.urlencode($tag);

if ($item = K2HelperRoute::_findItem($needles)) {
$link .= '&Itemid='.$item->id;
}
;

change it to this:
$link = 'index.php?option=com_k2&view=itemlist&task=tag&tag='.urlencode($tag);

$Itemid = JRequest::getInt( 'Itemid');

$link .= '&Itemid='.$Itemid;

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13 years 4 months ago #61284 by Matt
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Does anyone know a place where we can get better support?

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13 years 4 months ago #61285 by Matt
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I tried flexicontent and it doesn't have duplicated URL issues with tags. This K2 issue needs to be addressed.

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13 years 1 month ago #61286 by Harald Liebetegger
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I also have the same problem, duplicated content because k2 is identifying the item only with the last part of the url.
getk2.org/blog/item/694-the-old-k2-community-will-soon-close-down
getk2.org/documentation/item/694-the-old-k2-community-will-soon-close-down
will lead you to the same item.

I'm not that sorry about that issue, I'm more worry about this that it seems that the K2 team is not willed to provide support on issue which are provided from the user....

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13 years 1 month ago #61287 by Ronnie
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Im sorry to hear that.. I have a similar problem

I am about to give up on K2 except for using it as an external blog for this issue. Also having to resort to using the joomla article manager for content on my site for another issue see here

Using sh404sef gave me a bunch of duplicate urls and would have to delete them multiple times to get the page to load.

Constant 404 errors when linking to and item from the menu.

Not Sure how i fixed it but it involved disable everything deleting the article and starting over from scratch

but then it Started again

Have either of you had any luck?

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13 years 1 month ago #61288 by DINALVA ROMANCINI
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mhhhh.... this is a HUGE problem

I have a very complete site of tourist information, and I fully use the tags system and every K2 tool that it offers. I use to Simple Image Gallery PRO and other 3thd party extensions. Here is my site in 4 languages: www.infoiguassu.com

But this URL issue is killing my search results:

For example, for this only item in portuguese: www.infoiguassu.com/pt/onde-comprar/vinhos/item/70-adega-caminos

K2 creates this others:

www.infoiguassu.com/pt/atracoes/item/70-vinoteca-caminos
www.infoiguassu.com/pt/atracoes/represa-itaipu/item/70-vinoteca-caminos
www.infoiguassu.com/pt/foz-do-iguacu/item/70-vinoteca-caminos
www.infoiguassu.com/pt/onde-comer/cafeteria/item/70-vinoteca-caminos
www.infoiguassu.com/pt/onde-comprar/vinhos/item/70-adega-caminos
www.infoiguassu.com/pt/onde-comprar/vinhos/item/70-vinoteca-caminos
www.infoiguassu.com/pt/onde-ficar/hotel/item/70-vinoteca-caminos
www.infoiguassu.com/pt/onde-ficar/pousada/item/70-vinoteca-caminos

It's like any visitor can acess that only article from every section of my site: only adding "/item/70-vinoteca-caminos" at the end of the URL

This is KILLING all my work

I wonder why are the JoomlaWorks team doesn't replying this topic. I supose they know that it's a HUGE problem of K2 and solving this mean a LOT of work, maybe changing the core behaviour

Hope the best cause I really like K2 design and functions, and this is a very active community. Regards!

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13 years 1 month ago - 13 years 1 month ago #61289 by Dan Grant
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Gee, this looks like a huge issue! Has there ever been an answer from a moderator?

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13 years 1 month ago #61290 by nano India
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Have you find any solution for this problem? It's really a very big problem with K2. Since using K2, my google traffic has decreased because of this duplication. If you found any solution for it please share

thanks

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13 years 1 month ago - 13 years 1 month ago #61291 by DINALVA ROMANCINI
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No response form the K2 Team until now... :pinch: Neither a clue to minimize the damage that this issue creates in our sites

Rly I have now a big mess of duplicated content, and I have no idea of how to stop it.

I supose that a good way to solve this is creating a good site map, a sitemap that allow Google index only the content that you wanna show to your visitors. But... oh! good point... K2 doesn't come with a built-in sitemap generator :dry: . No hope in the third party area, neither the good ones. The way K2 manages the content url is a little confussing.

Until now the only way, is creating a sitemap manually :silly: .

Look at this:
The article:http://getk2.org/blog/item/716-the-new-k2-demo-site
Duplicate Articles in different urls:
getk2.org/blog/item/716-the-new-k2-demo-site/item/716-the-new-k2-demo-site
getk2.org/blog/item/716-the-new-k2-demo-site/item/716-the-new-k2-demo-site/item/716-the-new-k2-demo-site
getk2.org/documentation/item/724-k2-v256-released
getk2.org/extend/item/724-k2-v256-released
etc, etc, etc
Quite funny :cheer:

BTW, I rly like K2 but this is a Huge problem. Regards!

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13 years 4 weeks ago #61292 by DINALVA ROMANCINI
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Any update in this? Please some clue form the moderators...

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13 years 4 weeks ago #61293 by Vladimir Dombrovskiy
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can anyone help fix this issue?

and I see one more problem, when open article from main page (from some news module or K2 Content module), there link like component/k2/item/995 and there no module just only article %) more there

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13 years 4 weeks ago #61294 by Anna Maria Stranieri
Replied by Anna Maria Stranieri on topic K2 SEO issue - Can it be fixed?
We are facing the same problem with our parenting website in Germany. We go all the K2-features working and looking as we wished them to. As I read about your experience, we stopped all our export plans because we cannot risk our SEO standing with this project.
Today I stumbled into this extension:
extensions.joomla.org/extensions/extensi...map-extensions/10297
Would that help us arranging a K2 Sitemap and avoiding thus Google to see the content only once, as Giu Tae Kim suggested????

Any idea or experience about that.
Is there a moderator out there???

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13 years 3 weeks ago #61295 by DINALVA ROMANCINI
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This is a joke right??? 1500 views and no response???

Moderators, we are not asking for a FIX, we only need to know if this is a REAL problem or not?

Maybe I have a wrong K2 configuration, maybe I miss something.... but I need a hand to figure this out

At least tell that K2 isn't going to fix this, to continue in other way and stop killing my SEO that in my case is essential.

PLEASE may us know what is going on!

PS: I bought SIGPro of JoomlaWorks, I think that at least I deserve a short answer that explain the situation

Regards!

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13 years 3 weeks ago #61296 by Luca Morè
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I purchased Simple Image Gallery PRO but the component K2 with these problems is impossible to use. Please you can have a solution.

Thank

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13 years 3 weeks ago #61297 by Albert
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It might be the way you setup the menu. I don't understand your menu
example:
your pathway: Infoiguassu>>Atraçoes>>Represa Itaipu>>Lojas de Vinho>>Adega Caminos em Puerto Iguazu

www.infoiguassu.com/pt/atracoes
www.infoiguassu.com/pt/onde-comprar/vinhos <-- why isnt this atracoes/onde-comprar/vinhos if the pathway shows it?

In K2 if you don't make the menu system exactly how the k2 categories/sub-categories are setup URL can look different. The item won't show in the correct category it belongs too.

It is hard to tell for me since you have two different menus. Anyways, that is my guess.

Giu Tae Kim wrote: mhhhh.... this is a HUGE problem

I have a very complete site of tourist information, and I fully use the tags system and every K2 tool that it offers. I use to Simple Image Gallery PRO and other 3thd party extensions. Here is my site in 4 languages: www.infoiguassu.com

But this URL issue is killing my search results:

For example, for this only item in portuguese: www.infoiguassu.com/pt/onde-comprar/vinhos/item/70-adega-caminos

K2 creates this others:

www.infoiguassu.com/pt/atracoes/item/70-vinoteca-caminos
www.infoiguassu.com/pt/atracoes/represa-itaipu/item/70-vinoteca-caminos
www.infoiguassu.com/pt/foz-do-iguacu/item/70-vinoteca-caminos
www.infoiguassu.com/pt/onde-comer/cafeteria/item/70-vinoteca-caminos
www.infoiguassu.com/pt/onde-comprar/vinhos/item/70-adega-caminos
www.infoiguassu.com/pt/onde-comprar/vinhos/item/70-vinoteca-caminos
www.infoiguassu.com/pt/onde-ficar/hotel/item/70-vinoteca-caminos
www.infoiguassu.com/pt/onde-ficar/pousada/item/70-vinoteca-caminos

It's like any visitor can acess that only article from every section of my site: only adding "/item/70-vinoteca-caminos" at the end of the URL

This is KILLING all my work

I wonder why are the JoomlaWorks team doesn't replying this topic. I supose they know that it's a HUGE problem of K2 and solving this mean a LOT of work, maybe changing the core behaviour

Hope the best cause I really like K2 design and functions, and this is a very active community. Regards!

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13 years 3 weeks ago #61298 by DINALVA ROMANCINI
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Hi AI! My menu configuration is OK...

The Menu of the sidebar is the Principal Menu. The Horizontal Menu it's only showing specific articles and tags items.

Anyway, the problem is not the menus, the problem is how K2 shows the items. BTW I am not the only one with this problem, ALL K2 SITES have this problem, including the official website.

K2 allows all visitors access to one article from anywhere in the site. That is, from the current menu path, to the path of the item. This creates very strange and unique URLs, as the fact that an item appear in a totally different menu. And Google Spider crawls that URLs too, as duplicates.

This problem combines so many URLs, that this can virtually DESTROY all meaning of SEO.

Please, Moderators help us to only understand this!

Resgards!

Al wrote: It might be the way you setup the menu. I don't understand your menu
example:
your pathway: Infoiguassu>>Atraçoes>>Represa Itaipu>>Lojas de Vinho>>Adega Caminos em Puerto Iguazu

www.infoiguassu.com/pt/atracoes
www.infoiguassu.com/pt/onde-comprar/vinhos <-- why isnt this atracoes/onde-comprar/vinhos if the pathway shows it?

In K2 if you don't make the menu system exactly how the k2 categories/sub-categories are setup URL can look different. The item won't show in the correct category it belongs too.

It is hard to tell for me since you have two different menus. Anyways, that is my guess.

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13 years 3 weeks ago - 13 years 3 weeks ago #61299 by Harald Liebetegger
Replied by Harald Liebetegger on topic K2 SEO issue - Can it be fixed?
As it seems we are all not smart enough to use K2 ;-)

A user was referring to this threat and the answer of K2 was very quick!
Read more at
extensions.joomla.org/extensions/authoring-a-content/content-construction/8061#rev-118224

But frankly, I will not make for every category a menu entry and also if I do so, the problem isn't gone.
Isn't that bad? :unsure:

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13 years 3 weeks ago #61300 by DINALVA ROMANCINI
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Harald wrote: A user was referring to this threat and the answer of K2 was very quick!
Read more at
extensions.joomla.org/extensions/authoring-a-content/content-construction/8061#rev-118224

OK... I'll quote the answer:

First things first...

K2 is a FREE extension. Let me repeat that. It's FREE.

That being said, it's got one of the largest extension communities within the Joomlasphere. As with any community, if our post doesn't get answered this may mean a couple of things. In big communities like K2's it may mean "please dig around a bit, the answer is already there".

As for SEO, K2 is far better that the default Joomla! article system which is the base of reference in terms of content. K2 makes smart use of both HTML tags and attributes to interlink and present content as SEO as Joomla! allows any extension to be. The only culprit, which I've mentioned earlier to another poster is double URLs for content. But this happens due to the nature of Joomla! and how it structures extesion content based on menu items. In other words, if you have content categories that are NOT mapped into some menu item, then it's likely that you'll end up with double URLs for the same content. BUT... If you create a menu item that properly maps your category structure THE PROBLEM IS SOLVED. End of story. It's THAT simple.

If you're to complain about SEO, make sure you know how SEO is implemented too.


I have ALL my categories mapped in the right menu item. So that in not the point.

Answer this, why the oficial site of K2 have this problem too?

BTW, Are you saying that the solution is create a menu item for each article? Is this serious?

Please: some help from moderator! Regars! ;)

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13 years 3 weeks ago #61301 by DINALVA ROMANCINI
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Please a help form one moderator!

If someone have the same problem, please post it here!

Regards!

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