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4 years 2 weeks ago - 4 years 1 week ago #175274 by Dimitris Charitidis
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I will show you a very small example.
I have countless to show you from dozens of sites with k2
I will be really grateful if you can solve this problem for me

I have an article
for example
adapokrites.gr/xronomixani-2/polynekres-enoples-epitheseis-ipa

if I copy copy the title in google it should logically take me to the first page with the url of the article

adapokrites.gr/kosmos/eidiseis/nea/%CE%95%CE%A0%CE%99%CE%98%CE%95%CE%A3%CE%95%CE%99%CE%A3

but it takes me to the third page with the specific result

ΕΠΙΘΕΣΕΙΣ - Adapokrites
adapokrites.gr › kosmos › eidiseis › nea › ΕΠΙΘΕΣΕΙΣ

www.google.com/search?q=%CE%9F%CE%B9+%CF%80%CE%B9%CE%BF+%CF%80%CE%BF%CE%BB%CF%8D%CE%BD%CE%B5%CE%BA%CF%81%CE%B5%CF%82+%CE%AD%CE%BD%CE%BF%CF%80%CE%BB%CE%B5%CF%82+%CE%B5%CF%80%CE%B9%CE%B8%CE%AD%CF%83%CE%B5%CE%B9%CF%82+%CF%84%CF%89%CE%BD+%CF%84%CE%B5%CE%BB%CE%B5%CF%85%CF%84%CE%B1%CE%AF%CF%89%CE%BD+30+%CE%B5%CF%84%CF%8E%CE%BD+%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B9%CF%82+%CE%97%CE%A0%CE%91&oq=%CE%9F%CE%B9+%CF%80%CE%B9%CE%BF+%CF%80%CE%BF%CE%BB%CF%8D%CE%BD%CE%B5%CE%BA%CF%81%CE%B5%CF%82+%CE%AD%CE%BD%CE%BF%CF%80%CE%BB%CE%B5%CF%82+%CE%B5%CF%80%CE%B9%CE%B8%CE%AD%CF%83%CE%B5%CE%B9%CF%82+%CF%84%CF%89%CE%BD+%CF%84%CE%B5%CE%BB%CE%B5%CF%85%CF%84%CE%B1%CE%AF%CF%89%CE%BD+30+%CE%B5%CF%84%CF%8E%CE%BD+%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B9%CF%82+%CE%97%CE%A0%CE%91&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

the reason is as follows
there are hundreds of orls that contain this passage
adapokrites.gr/media-news/nea/%CE%A7%CE%A1%CE%9F%CE%9D%CE%9F%CE%9C%CE%97%CE%A7%CE%91%CE%9D%CE%97

adapokrites.gr/kosmos/eidiseis/nea/%CE%A7%CE%A1%CE%9F%CE%9D%CE%9F%CE%9C%CE%97%CE%A7%CE%91%CE%9D%CE%97

adapokrites.gr/kosmos/eidiseis/nea/%CE%95%CE%A0%CE%99%CE%98%CE%95%CE%A3%CE%95%CE%99%CE%A3


even in articles

adapokrites.gr/texnes/mousiki/the-f-virus-o-pragmatikos-ios-einai-o-fovos/nea/%CE%A7%CE%A1%CE%9F%CE%9D%CE%9F%CE%9C%CE%97%CE%A7%CE%91%CE%9D%CE%97

in users
adapokrites.gr/xronomixani-2/author/12-pressroom/nea/%CE%A7%CE%A1%CE%9F%CE%9D%CE%9F%CE%9C%CE%97%CE%A7%CE%91%CE%9D%CE%97

and we're talking about a site with 50,000 articles and 5,000 tags

Do you understand how many thousands of voids url has been detected by Google and ranked me accordingly
Last edit: 4 years 1 week ago by Dimitris Charitidis.

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4 years 2 weeks ago #175305 by JoomlaWorks
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Google ranks your site(s) based on various factors, but the most important ones are:
a) Original content (obviously)
b) How well your HTML is structured, in other words, how easily crawl-able it is. If you enabled Google Structured Data (GSD) in the SEO tab of K2's Settings, this significantly helps.
c) Performance, how fast your site loads, both server-side and client-side.

Regarding your specific examples, if you search using a private window (so the results are not filtered by your browsing preferences) for this www.google.com/search?q=%CE%9F%CE%B9+%CF%80%CE%B9%CE%BF+%CF%80%CE%BF%CE%BB%CF%8D%CE%BD%CE%B5%CE%BA%CF%81%CE%B5%CF%82+%CE%AD%CE%BD%CE%BF%CF%80%CE%BB%CE%B5%CF%82+%CE%B5%CF%80%CE%B9%CE%B8%CE%AD%CF%83%CE%B5%CE%B9%CF%82+%CF%84%CF%89%CE%BD+%CF%84%CE%B5%CE%BB%CE%B5%CF%85%CF%84%CE%B1%CE%AF%CF%89%CE%BD+30+%CE%B5%CF%84%CF%8E%CE%BD+%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B9%CF%82+%CE%97%CE%A0%CE%91 your site comes up on the 4th page and it links to the first page of the category "ΕΠΙΘΕΣΕΙΣ": adapokrites.gr/kosmos/eidiseis/nea/%CE%95%CE%A0%CE%99%CE%98%CE%95%CE%A3%CE%95%CE%99%CE%A3

Which seems normal. A category page can be more popular than an item page.

If you want to be more specific, you need to use double quotes surrounding an item title, e.g.: www.google.com/search?q=%22%CE%9E%CE%B5%CE%BA%CE%B1%CF%81%CE%B4%CE%B9%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE+%CE%B5%CF%80%CE%AF%CE%B8%CE%B5%CF%83%CE%B7+%CE%BC%CE%B1%CF%8A%CE%BC%CE%BF%CF%8D%CF%82+%CF%83%CE%B5+%CE%B1%CE%BD%CF%85%CF%80%CE%BF%CF%88%CE%AF%CE%B1%CF%83%CF%84%CE%BF+%CF%80%CE%B5%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%8C%22&oq=%22%CE%9E%CE%B5%CE%BA%CE%B1%CF%81%CE%B4%CE%B9%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE+%CE%B5%CF%80%CE%AF%CE%B8%CE%B5%CF%83%CE%B7+%CE%BC%CE%B1%CF%8A%CE%BC%CE%BF%CF%8D%CF%82+%CF%83%CE%B5+%CE%B1%CE%BD%CF%85%CF%80%CE%BF%CF%88%CE%AF%CE%B1%CF%83%CF%84%CE%BF+%CF%80%CE%B5%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%8C%22

This will reveal your site in the 1st page of results, as 3rd result (direct URL to the item). Which is also normal (being 3rd), because the given item's title resembles that of other higher-ranked sites compared to yours (this usually indicates content that is not the source).

So all in all, I don't see any issues in regards to content crawling, for a site that may have not used GSD in the past. I see it's now enabled though which is a plus.

Additionally, make sure you add your site to the Google Search Console so you can monitor crawling issues.

If you can't do anything about the site's server-side performance (I see it's on Plesk with Nginx as proxy to Apache - which probably doesn't really do much unless you cache a few things on Nginx's side), you should:
a) focus on well structured menus and content (your HTML)
b) enforce tag normalization (e.g. make all tags lowercase or uppercase by default, regardless of what editors input as tags) to avoid duplicate tags because the case is different
c) do the trick I've mentioned before in this forum to enforce all tag, user and other links that are autogenerated to be mapped to a "root" K2 URL. If you don't already have such a menu item for K2 (one that points to all K2 categories), create one in a hidden menu and give it a generic alias (e.g. "content"). Then in the SEO settings of K2 enable "Advanced SEF URLs", clear your caches and check e.g. your tag URLs.

Also keep in mind that K2 will create duplicate tag URLs because this is how Joomla's URL router works by default.

Try the above and let me know.

If you need performance or other consulting, you can always use the contact form to get in touch with me directly.

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4 years 2 weeks ago - 4 years 2 weeks ago #175330 by Dimitris Charitidis
Replied by Dimitris Charitidis on topic Unwanted Link K2/itemlist/user/
It would be great to have a telephone call if this is possible.
I work professionally with the Joomla and K2 since 2007.
It would be my pleasure to share my experiences with you.
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4 years 2 weeks ago #175332 by JoomlaWorks
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Please avoid using personal details in a public forum :)

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