k2isgood,

I'm sorry if you took offense to my reply... it wasn't my intention to hurt your feelings, but rather to be open and honest with you since you are questioning why you're not getting responses to your posts. I suppose I knew that it would probably strike a nerve when I wrote it, and obviously it did! Do you notice anything now about your approach in this entire thread? Is my reply really different than what you did here? Clearly it made you really really mad. Do you think perhaps that might be how the very people you want help from might be viewing your thread?

First, in regards to "Boy who cried wolf" comment.

1. You name yourself k2isgood.
2. You post a comment and get no official response. This is no surprise because the Joomlaworks people really haven't been frequenting this forum, nor responding to messages with suggestions.
3. You post this thread titled "Dont Use K2, NO SUPPORT!!! You will be stuck"
4. When someone from Joomlaworks replies to you to explain that they are busy tracking bugs, coding and maintaining the community ---
5. You write: "PS: I did not want to hurt any of the K2 developers by creating this thread and creation of this thread by no means suggest that k2 is not good, infact my username is k2isgood.
By creating this thread I just wanted to make members of the forum more active. :)"

So in essence when you said: there is "NO SUPPORT" and "You will be stuck" what you really meant is that "k2 is really good" and you are doing everyone a service by making sure that they are awake?

In the short amount of time I've been using K2, I've actually tried to answer a number of questions for people -- and I think I may have helped at least one or two. When I fixed the tag trim bug and posted the patch, that probably helped a couple of people, and the patch also is in svn now. I'm not saying that is anything great but it's more than you've contributed, so it seems like what you're really saying is that, because I don't agree with your opinions about what has to be done to K2 to make it better, my opinions are crap.

In regards to your desire for a K2 export utility --- I stated it before and will say it again. It can be done in one SQL query! In the Joomla 1.0 days I was the team leader of a Joomla gallery component and module that had a lot of users, so I do know what goes into writing these things, and it's a lot of work. To make such a utility would take a lot of time and effort for very little gain. Joomlaworks might decide to do that work someday, but if I were them it would be really low on my priority list. And for a start -- you don't have to empty your articles table, right?

Lastly, in terms of your SEF issue, I understand your concern, although it might have helped if you explained this originally. This is how K2 is designed at present. I don't know if there's a way to do what you want with sh404sef or not, so I'll refrain from commenting further. Since it's a commercial product costing $65-$250 you might have more luck trying to get support from them on it, assuming you licensed it. It seems like K2 is "compatible" with it, in that it does remove the name= portion of the url params and functions properly. What you need is beyond that normal functionality, but it clearly is not broken.

Well you got people's attention, and also established that you aren't to be taken seriously. Reference the story of "the boy who cried wolf". Unfortunately, this thread is going to be googled and people will come to it purely because of your hyperbolic title.

Don't get me wrong, the community support of K2 isn't that large right now. Like Irish, I've made several posts and none of them have received replies either. Because I can't afford to wait, I've gone ahead and looked at the source code, and made efforts to better understand it, because ultimately that is what you have to do with an open source project much of the time. You're not paying anyone money for support, and unfortunately at times you need to help yourself, or pay someone to help you if you're not able to dig into the code yourself. I needed to make some hacks to it for a project I did recently because there was simply no way for me to wait and hope that the Joomlaworks guys would add what was needed for the project. I also found a bug and fixed it, and then shortly thereafter a similar fix was done to the source and committed.

I also didn't want to get in an argument in regards to your other thread, but I still don't see that there's a major need for at least 2 of the features you wrote about. Many times you have to be willing to see workarounds or alternatives to the way you want things to be. Judging you only by your posts in regards to sh404sef and your request for changes to K2, you seem to be very strident about how you want things to be, and if they aren't exactly what you want, you seem to feel this constitutes a major problem with K2. I personally don't agree with you, and perhaps this also may be contributing to the lack of response to your issues.

Speaking candidly, your sh404sef issue strikes me as silly. Why do you care whether or not there's a category in the url? It doesn't matter to google, so why should it matter to you?

I also pointed out that tags give you many to many relationships between items. Your answer was "that wordpress has that" as if that's an argument. Joomla with K2 isn't wordpress, and the wordpress internals are nothing great. Needless to say, one obvious reply that could be offered is: go use wordpress then.

I offer this response purely as food for thought, as I have no special insight into what the Joomlaworks guys are thinking or planning to do, but simply my completely honest impression of how your posts come off to me: shrill and demanding may get people's attention for a minute, but in the long haul they really aren't going to make you any friends, and more than likely will lead to people tuning you out in the future, as someone who is unrealistic and probably won't be around to contribute anything back to the community anyways.

k2isgood said:Hi Every one can see that lots of time and efforts are devoted towards K2. Its definitely emerging as a leader, but still there are lots of things need to be done.
I would request you to consider features requested by users in future version of K2

Here is what I request
community.getk2.org/forum/topics/feature-request-multi?xg_so...

PS: I did not want to hurt any of the K2 developers by creating this thread and creation of this thread by no means suggest that k2 is not good, infact my username is k2isgood.
By creating this thread I just wanted to make members of the forum more active. :)

JoomlaWorks said:For sh404SEF it's best to ask on the sh404SEF website. For the record... We devote lots of our time to develop and maintain the forum. That is why we are not so active in the community. We do however track bug reports and other issues mentioned.

If this community has succeeded it's because of those people (plain members) who are helping others, especiallly newbies. And that's the spirit of open source. ;)

I'm having same problem, my allvideos is enabled and I still get only tag text in item as {aviremote}x{/aviremote}, if i added from my server. I do have k2 js and css loaded in head.

If its loaded from provider youtube it does work. Any ideas?

k2 2.3, joomla 1.5.20, allvideos 3.3, sig 2.0.4

Hi,

 

I need to display links (a href="http:// etc) in the K2 content module. Example: The intro contains a link to another website which I want my visitors to be able to use when the article intro is displayed in a module. As fas as I can see right now, the module "washes" such HTML tags away. I looked in the K2 settings, changing the "clean HTML" feature, but it did not help. Is there a way to keep the a href tag?

 

Rgds

Hi, I need help to control the picture size, when they are displayed in K2 comments module. I defined the size in k2 kofiguration and in the katagori parameters, but still the pictures are displayed in a wrong size. Can anybody please help. :-)

Thanks Oliver,
I have enclosed a zip with an addition to the admin interface to allow the copying of categories. I can get this to work only if the core files are edited. I cannot figure out how to overide this as you are describing in this post or am I understanding it has to be a core edit because of the views file structure not having paths for controllers, models etc....

Olivier Nolbert said:Hi Irish, Because you can only override the component views templates, anything else, so no need to specify 'views'.

Olivier

irish said:Why is the path not 'administrator/templates/khepri/html/com_k2/views/items/default.php' instead of: 'administrator/templates/khepri/html/com_k2/items/default.php'
Olivier Nolbert said:Hi James, You can override K2 (or another component) admin views by copying the view tmpl file to : 'administrator.DS.templates.DS.YOURJOOLATEMPLATE.DS.html.com_YOURCOMPONENT.DS.YOURVIEW.DS.TMPLFILE'
An example for the K2 items view in the joomla! Khepri template :

'administrator/templates/khepri/html/com_k2/items/default.php'

In attachment, a modified K2 items view that adds a 'tag' column to indicate if the item has a defined tag + lists of tags under item title.

Hope it will help you.

Olivier
www.jiliko.net

Thanks for this reply, it was very helpful.

Mark Gibbens said:So, the case against using headings out of order is: * it may cause problems for software converting your webpage to a different DTD, and
* it may create an impression that your page is not well organized.

I would suggest that these possible drawbacks will affect only a very, very small number of us. I am certainly not going to convert the HTML my CMS produces into another DTD. I'd simply code a different theme/skin if I wanted to do this (and I can't imagine I ever would). And I don't mind what other developers/designers think of my source code if they have different priorities. If I'm producing valid code, and my websites are accessible and achieve my clients' objectives, then I'm happy.

The W3C spec says nothing about using headings in order to imply structure. It only says that different headings convey different levels of importance. So the validity of web pages with the headings out of order is not in question. Arrange your headings any way you want - they'll still validate and won't break any W3C spec.

I'm pretty sure that there is no accessibility case against using headings out of order. Some assistive technology does enable users to skip from heading to heading, but I don't think using headings out of order causes any practical problems. I remember this issue coming up on the Guild of Accessible Web Designers email list, and there being no accessibility case against mixing up your headings.

However, search engines almost certainly assume greater importance of key-words inside higher level headings. So, in the K2 example above, it might make plenty of sense to give greater importance to the Category Titles than the heading of the part of the page they're in.

Bottom line - headings which are out of order:
* don't break any W3C spec.
* don't hurt any of your visitors.
* don't cause any problems for site/code management (except, possibly, in very rare cases).
* probably do help your search engine ratings.

Personally, what I take from all this is that I think carefully about my use of heading tags, and I use them to imply both structure and importance, depending on the situation.

Hi Irish,

Because you can only override the component views templates, anything else, so no need to specify 'views'.

Olivier

irish said:Why is the path not 'administrator/templates/khepri/html/com_k2/views/items/default.php'
instead of: 'administrator/templates/khepri/html/com_k2/items/default.php'

Olivier Nolbert said:Hi James, You can override K2 (or another component) admin views by copying the view tmpl file to :
'administrator.DS.templates.DS.YOURJOOLATEMPLATE.DS.html.com_YOURCOMPONENT.DS.YOURVIEW.DS.TMPLFILE'

An example for the K2 items view in the joomla! Khepri template :

'administrator/templates/khepri/html/com_k2/items/default.php'

In attachment, a modified K2 items view that adds a 'tag' column to indicate if the item has a defined tag + lists of tags under item title.

Hope it will help you.

Olivier
www.jiliko.net

Why is the path not 'administrator/templates/khepri/html/com_k2/views/items/default.php'

instead of: 'administrator/templates/khepri/html/com_k2/items/default.php'

Olivier Nolbert said:Hi James,
You can override K2 (or another component) admin views by copying the view tmpl file to :
'administrator.DS.templates.DS.YOURJOOLATEMPLATE.DS.html.com_YOURCOMPONENT.DS.YOURVIEW.DS.TMPLFILE'

An example for the K2 items view in the joomla! Khepri template :

'administrator/templates/khepri/html/com_k2/items/default.php'

In attachment, a modified K2 items view that adds a 'tag' column to indicate if the item has a defined tag + lists of tags under item title.

Hope it will help you.

Olivier
www.jiliko.net

Maybe in "report Bugs" i can be more luckily?because i start thinking tha this is a bug...ok, here is the problem:when we try to create a new user from frontend, all parameters that don't belong to joomla base are totally ignored, and when we check the new user into the backend they doesn't have the checkbox that permit to select him into the K2 User tag.if we edit him from the backend clicking under the name, we are able to add description, avatar, sex and URL, and after that in the backend we can see the checkbox, but also in this case if we try to edit that parameters from the frontend via the user profile pages they doesn' change anything, and we have no errors (they say that they have correctly save our modifications, but if we check the "my page" we don't see anything changed).another strange thing happening is that when someone try to click over "create a profile" the error Notice: Object of class UserViewRegister could not be converted to int in /var/www/vhosts/tdm-modena.it/httpdocs/plugins/system/k2.php on line 146comes up in top of siteafter viewing the problem, we have thinked that they may be because we haven't installed GAvatar. so we have tried to install GAvatar: doesn't work, so we have uninstalled it.We have seen that with RokDownloads they can be problems, so we have uninstalled it: nothing changed.we have tried with the module that extend the filed number, nothing to do.i've double checked: the login module used is the one from K2.We have checked if it is a permission problem, but despite the fact that K2 seems not using the FTP upload joomla facility that we normally use into Joomla, seems that isn't the problem (we have tried to change file owner and permission and nothing changed)we are using Joomla 1.5.20 and K2 2.3 , the website is www.tdm-modena.it , and we use the Affinity template from rockettheme, that is K2 compliantsomeone knows, by the way, if this is / can be caused by the interaction with Rokbridge, the user bridge to PHPBB ?we are almost desperate: someone (something can be good also ^__^ ) can help us?K2 is too powerful to abandon it, but this is a major problem that make it unuseful...

OK. It is solved, wothout any help.

1.) Rename Twitter to any other class. Because it might be, that twitter is used by another part of k2 which uses the STRONG Tag. I used twitterstyle and the strong attribute was away. Please check the default.php too.
2.) I found the cions for XING, tumblr and posterous, so I went through the files and made the changes to any other social profile.

Bye, and Thanks for listening.

Please explain step by step for beginners like us, the item copying sucks because it is copying attachments too and my hosting account space is getting low :(.. please help

Ivan Descartes said:This is such an important feature for K2, and the implementation is not impossible. First, I will say why this is important: Users should be able to navigate content listings, and find an item by different paths, without copying content between categories. So unless K2 can make NESTED TAGS (which would effectively be the same as multiple categories), this is still important. Think about Ebay or another retailer that puts links to items under "Bestsellers" and also "Video Games". So how to implement? Here is the best way:
First, from the item creation, it can be assigned to multiple categories. 1 category is set as the primary category, and this category is stored in catid in the database (for compatibility). All other categories are stored in a new database table that maps items to categories by paths. The schema for this table:

ID (primary key) ItemID CatID PathID (optional)

The ID is just the primary key. The ItemID stores the article ID. The cat ID stores the CatID. The PathID is an optional parameter that reflects if this is path 1, path 2, path 3, .... to get to this item.

Any time an item is created, we make unique entries for each category assignment. This puts the database load on the item creation rather than search (if we had put all of the categories comma-separated in the original items table). When a category listing is requested, we just find all of the items in this Paths table that match, and list them. Other modules that use K2 should start using this table.

So for URLs, there is an SEO way and a non-SEO way, I want to highlight both, and suggest the SEO way.

SEO way: only 1 url per article. Unless some magical cookies or database are used, the page cannot reflect which category the user arrived by.
non-SEO way: multiple urls per article. This allows the URL to reflect the category that the viewer reached the item by. However, it also means that there are multiple URLs for the same item. This could be done simply by appending the "path" to the end of the URL to allow K2 breadcrumbs to properly display the path, or the whole url would be set correctly (the latter being preferable).

Let me know if this makes sense. The feature is quite important if K2 wants to be THE content solution.

Balgas said:If someone knows how create a second category for one item, i'm ok to know the solution :)

K2 BNR Content is a modification to the standard K2 content display module. Rather than define the content you want to display in the module, this module pulls the item data from the current item being displayed.This allows you to expand your layout options since you can now display part of the item content in the main content display area and other bits of content in the module positions. You can even load more than one module per page to deliver highly complex layouts with the content exactly where you want it!

The module also supports subtemplates so you can completely control not only which content is displayed in the module, but also how it is displayed.

The attached image shows the extra fields for the item being displayed in the left column. The main image banner across the top is also in a module position so it can change based on the item image that has been uploaded.

You can download the module in the JED here - K2 BNR Content
CHANGE LOG
V1.4.0Added Social Links and Related Items by Tag as display optionsV1.3.0Fixed PHP 5.3.x plugin event errors due to variable not being passed by reference
V1.2.0Fixed Undefined property errorsFixed Undefined variable errors
v1.1.0 - Fixed module template override issues. You can now add your template overrides in templates/[template name]/html/mod_k2bnr_content and the module will see the folders and use the correct files.

Thanks Lefteri! You really helped me a lot!
I would like to buy you a beer! :D

Lefteris Kavadas said:Yes if you disable that plugin it will work. This plugin was added in Joomla! 1.5.20 and upgrades the mootools library. We modified K2 so now it works with this. So you have to wait for the next release of K2. The SVN version contains the latest changes of K2 but it is not considered stable. If your site is still under development you can try the SVN version. You can find it at getk2.org/svnDownload.php.
Manos said:Hi Lefteri nad thanks for your reply. So if I disable the mootools upgrade plugin (System - Mootools Upgrade), it will resolve the problem? And what is the SVN version?
Lefteris Kavadas said:Hi. You are using Joomla! 1.5.20 with the mootools upgrade plugin enabled. If you need the mootools upgrade then you have to wait for the next release of K2 which is compatible with the latest mootools library. Or you can try the SVN version.

Yes if you disable that plugin it will work. This plugin was added in Joomla! 1.5.20 and upgrades the mootools library. We modified K2 so now it works with this. So you have to wait for the next release of K2. The SVN version contains the latest changes of K2 but it is not considered stable. If your site is still under development you can try the SVN version. You can find it at getk2.org/svnDownload.php.

Manos said:Hi Lefteri nad thanks for your reply. So if I disable the mootools upgrade plugin (System - Mootools Upgrade), it will resolve the problem?
And what is the SVN version?
Lefteris Kavadas said:Hi. You are using Joomla! 1.5.20 with the mootools upgrade plugin enabled. If you need the mootools upgrade then you have to wait for the next release of K2 which is compatible with the latest mootools library. Or you can try the SVN version.

Hi Lefteri nad thanks for your reply.
So if I disable the mootools upgrade plugin (System - Mootools Upgrade), it will resolve the problem?
And what is the SVN version?
Lefteris Kavadas said:Hi. You are using Joomla! 1.5.20 with the mootools upgrade plugin enabled. If you need the mootools upgrade then you have to wait for the next release of K2 which is compatible with the latest mootools library. Or you can try the SVN version.

Hi. You are using Joomla! 1.5.20 with the mootools upgrade plugin enabled. If you need the mootools upgrade then you have to wait for the next release of K2 which is compatible with the latest mootools library. Or you can try the SVN version.

1.There is a difference between tags and categories. Even the best blogging software Wordpress provide this functionality to its users and then why don't K2.

2.You don't think its important? Many threads are created in this regard and people want to switch back to joomla core. So now if one start using k2 he/she is forever stuck with it.

David R. said:1. This has been suggested many times already and I'm with several other people who don't agree this is needed, when you have tags. The tags are already a Many to many system, as you can tag an item with as many tags as you want.
2. I also don't think that #2 is important because an import of k2 items back to joomla articles would be lossy. Joomla doesn't support tags, or nested categories. I'd much rather see the K2 devs working on new functionality that is important to K2 users. If you want to move k2 items to joomla articles you could accomplish this with a couple simple mysql queries.

3. I agree with you here. There is already one K2 plugin that has been done for a different comment system, and there's now the mutlinotify plugin from K2Joom.

4. Perhaps nice to have, or even a potential for pay addon. Looks like some significant code would be needed to support something like SSO integration with Disqus.

1. This has been suggested many times already and I'm with several other people who don't agree this is needed, when you have tags. The tags are already a Many to many system, as you can tag an item with as many tags as you want.

2. I also don't think that #2 is important because an import of k2 items back to joomla articles would be lossy. Joomla doesn't support tags, or nested categories. I'd much rather see the K2 devs working on new functionality that is important to K2 users. If you want to move k2 items to joomla articles you could accomplish this with a couple simple mysql queries.

3. I agree with you here. There is already one K2 plugin that has been done for a different comment system, and there's now the mutlinotify plugin from K2Joom.

4. Perhaps nice to have, or even a potential for pay addon. Looks like some significant code would be needed to support something like SSO integration with Disqus.

Hi to all. Has anyone every tried to stip the tag urls so they don't dupicate for every catagory. For example:I post an aticle using K2 and i apply a TAG such as " street crime " from a catagory called education. the non sef url looks like this:

index.php?option=com_k2&Itemid=2&task=tag%3D+street+crime&view=itemlist



with ACESEF on it looks like this. mysite.com/education/tags/street-crimewhat i want to do is change the url code so the catagory is never lncluded in the tag url. i have tried working with the k2_com helpers/route.php file here....function getTagRoute($tag) {        $needles = array (        'tag'=>$tag        );        $link = 'index.php?option=com_k2&view=itemlist&task=tag&tag='.urlencode($tag);        if ($item = K2HelperRoute::_findItem($needles)) {            $link .= '&Itemid='.$item->id;        }        ;but can't get the result im looking for. But i know there are also lines which echo the tag urls with in the template files, such as catagoryItem & Item.phpI could use ACESEF, but i dont want to have to rewrite every TAG which is created by the site users. All ideas & help is much appreciated.