So, the case against using headings out of order is:
* it may cause problems for software converting your webpage to a different DTD, and
* it may create an impression that your page is not well organized.

I would suggest that these possible drawbacks will affect only a very, very small number of us. I am certainly not going to convert the HTML my CMS produces into another DTD. I'd simply code a different theme/skin if I wanted to do this (and I can't imagine I ever would). And I don't mind what other developers/designers think of my source code if they have different priorities. If I'm producing valid code, and my websites are accessible and achieve my clients' objectives, then I'm happy.

The W3C spec says nothing about using headings in order to imply structure. It only says that different headings convey different levels of importance. So the validity of web pages with the headings out of order is not in question. Arrange your headings any way you want - they'll still validate and won't break any W3C spec.

I'm pretty sure that there is no accessibility case against using headings out of order. Some assistive technology does enable users to skip from heading to heading, but I don't think using headings out of order causes any practical problems. I remember this issue coming up on the Guild of Accessible Web Designers email list, and there being no accessibility case against mixing up your headings.

However, search engines almost certainly assume greater importance of key-words inside higher level headings. So, in the K2 example above, it might make plenty of sense to give greater importance to the Category Titles than the heading of the part of the page they're in.

Bottom line - headings which are out of order:
* don't break any W3C spec.
* don't hurt any of your visitors.
* don't cause any problems for site/code management (except, possibly, in very rare cases).
* probably do help your search engine ratings.

Personally, what I take from all this is that I think carefully about my use of heading tags, and I use them to imply both structure and importance, depending on the situation.

Hi,I don't know if it's a bug, but the last couple of days when I type a tag, the list pops up for one second and then disapears, so I cannot select the tag. Any ideas why this happens?I have latest version of K2 and Joomla.Thanks,Manos

Well, I use the K2 UserExtended Plugin and this is what it´s looks like, when I added my "social profiles"



Hovering the Twitter Button, there is a HTML Tag shown in the alt-Text <strong>









What´s wrong in this case?





Another idea of myself is, is there a way to add Social Sites to this Plugin, like XING. I´m an ambassador of XING and would like to show my XING-Profile in the extended user field. It would be nice, if someone know a tuorial or could post it here.

DAE,
I'm going to try and answer you as diplomatically as possible, since I see you are now in full scale retreat from K2. First of all, I have no vested interest in trying to convince you of anything -- like you I stumbled upon K2, however in my case, it has turned out to be an invaluable piece of a recent website project, and one that provided much needed features that if not for K2 would have probably required the authoring of a custom plugin from scratch.

I don't know exactly where things jumped the track, but respectfully I feel someone needs to explain to you that your problems originate in your own lack of experience and understanding of how websites work, and nowhere is this illustrated more than in this question.

The spacing you allude to is controlled by styles in .css files. The only reason you would need to customize the K2 default .php views is if you needed to change the order of items.

Again, I'm not here to kick you while your down, and the best advice I can offer you is to use what pretty much every knowledgable web developer is using these days to help understand what stylesheets and styles are being employed -- and that is the amazing firebug plugin for firefox. You could have used it's "inspect this element" feature to find out what styles were being used for any of the elements you were talking about. Whether or not you use K2, the underlying mechanics of the web and Joomla itself will necessitate a basic understanding of these things, and hopefully alleviate some of your frustration.

I've been doing web development for -- well longer than I'd like to admit, and K2 is one of the best and longest overdue plugins to arrive for Joomla. I'm sure it will get better, as time goes on. If it doesn't provide you things you absolutely need, like nested categories, tags and custom fields, then I can understand going back to vanilla Joomla. Although I haven't tried this myself, I suspect the easiest way to move K2 items into the Joomla article table would be involve nothing more than a relatively simple INSERT INTO ... SELECT query.

Best of luck with your project.

DAE said:Can at least someone help me?
I need to know which specific php file will control the spacing above and blow the "read more" text.

An export to Joomla articles from K2 items would be a lossy proposition. What would you do about attached images, videos and tags, not to mention the fact that you can have a tree of categories, where Joomla doesn't support that idea at all. What would you do with the data from any custom fields you added?

K2 was designed to address a lot of the things that are missing from Joomla articles. If I needed to do this myself, I'd go into phpMyAdmin and write a simple query to select out the needed fields and insert them into the joomla article table.

simon.getk2.org/component/k2/item/91-templating
and
community.getk2.org/notes/Templating_in_K2
are good sources for templating
see - simon.getk2.org/downloads/free-extensions/item/26-css-4-k2 for css styling to overrides
and www.jiliko.net/en/Resources/Extensions/K2/Plugin-K2-Oneccsperk2template
for css styling to overrides
also,
k2joom.com/k2-templates/profiler-k2-template/item-example
examples of templates for sale
Pm if you need help

I am new to K2. It was originally a joomla article that I imported into K2. The template I am using is rocketthemes Panacea. Any info on template overriding would be great!

Thank you for the fast response William :)

William White said:If this is K2 with sef, then a template override will help you do this If this is a joomla article, then an override still should work depending on the template

It appears with firebug that there are three things breaking out of the template
CatItemTagsBlock - from CatItemLinks
Content_footer - from k2 pagination
and footer_module
I think this is most likely a template problem.
Try switching templates and see if it persists

If this is K2 with sef, then a template override will help you do this
If this is a joomla article, then an override still should work depending on the template

Hi.  I need to know how to move the Comments/Read More above the tags and published under.  My client wants it more prominently displayed that you can read more, instead of having at the bottom.  She thinks users won't automatically know that there is more to the article.  If this is not an available function, she doesn't want to use K2 all-together.  So, I'm really hoping it is doable!! Thank you so much for your time!Site: soulmateplan.com/index.php/blog

Could you check in media/k2/galleries if the photos you are uploading are there? If not then you should change the permissions.

You can either use the upload method or inside the text the tag method. In the tag method you should upload the images in a folder inside images/stories and use the path from there on. i.e, {gallery}gallery1{/gallery}.

Hi James,

You can override K2 (or another component) admin views by copying the view tmpl file to :
'administrator.DS.templates.DS.YOURJOOLATEMPLATE.DS.html.com_YOURCOMPONENT.DS.YOURVIEW.DS.TMPLFILE'

An example for the K2 items view in the joomla! Khepri template :

'administrator/templates/khepri/html/com_k2/items/default.php'

In attachment, a modified K2 items view that adds a 'tag' column to indicate if the item has a defined tag + lists of tags under item title.

Hope it will help you.

Olivier
www.jiliko.net

That's interesting idea William
I have project that might require auto k2 group registration so a plugin might be on the cards registration.
Although the config allows K2 group assignment being ableto assign more than one group based on different registrations forms might be useful for memberships etc
Supporting core 1.6 acls would make life easier though.
What scenario can you imagine wanting both? 

William White said:Will there be advantages to keeping the K2 acl after 1.6 acl is added? I think that keeping the k2 acl and adding additional features to it like automatically assigning and/or creating a k2 acl and category would be really helpfull

Cheers for those links, much useful. Found a rough hint into it from those links, so thank you.

I decided to hack into it myself and work it out after copying the template to templates/my-template/html/com_k2/default

My view was a category blog type thing, so I edited category_item.php and this sorted it.

Quite simply I moved the 'if' statement for the header (if to endif with all nested tags). I pasted it after the image DIV and it nested in there just perfect.

Thanks William.

The page generates an Icon for a syndicated field but for the life of me I can not figure out how to edit the link so it works. I know the link but can not add it to the symbol that shows up on the left side of the page. I can see that it creates div.k2FeedIcon but can not add the linking. So I am trying to edit the link in the following code the blog page generatesRSS feed icon" activeThen I also checkedRSS feed link activeIn the Global settings
<!-- RSS feed icon -->


<div class="k2FeedIcon">


<a href="/blog.feed" title="Subscribe to this RSS feed"> The section for blog.feed I want to change. Can any one tell me where to find this. I can build a component with a text link that works but can not change the image link. What silly thing am I missing?  Thanks for any suggestions, I have spent hours looking.I have set up a module and that works fine. The problem is when I activate the rss feed to show via K2. I selected Catagories, called it Blog, then in properties I activated "




In the Global Settings can not find a place to put the link in to have it link to the right feed location. This seems to be where it should be but I am totally stumped on finding it. Not good at adding it in the PHP code

FWIW, if people want to put in a quick hack until the official release:

Go into /administrator/components/com_k2/tables/k2tag.php

remove function check(), and replace it with this code:

function check() {
$this->name = trim($this->name);
if ($this->name == '') {
$this->setError(JText::_('Tag cannot be empty'));
return false;
}
$this->name = str_replace('-','',$this->name);
return true;
}

Notice the str_replace for the '-' is one of the reasons that hyphens get removed. Commenting that out,, and in several other places and you can save tags with hyphens. The problem is that the tags module breaks when you click on articles related to the tag with hyphen, because for some reason, when the hyphenated parameter gets passed in the url, it ultimately gets changed from:

foo-bar

to

foo:bar

I ran out of time trying to understand what is going on inside of Joomla, as this appears to be related to the JDatabase Quote() function, afaik. Since this replace for hyphens is put in a number of different places, it makes me think that the K2 guys might have seen some issue with this, or that there's some security related issue with hyphens that causes the joomla api to modify them. Or it might also be related to the controller code and joomla's use of a ':" to pack url params.

You have tags for "comedy" and "horror".

kiril Hristov Yovev said:Look at this example- You have website for movies and you are adding new movie in category named "horror". But the movie is also funny and you want to add it to one more category named "Funny movies". I can't see how the tangs can do it.
(Sorry for my bad english)

I did that, it it almost does what I need it to, now I need to make it so every tag get its own line



David R. said:Steven, If you look at the tag cloud module you will notice that it is simply a configuration of the k2_tools. There are settings that define how many tags to display, and what the min font and max font size is. So the first idea I would have for you is to go in, and set the min size and max size to 100%. This would in effect disable the "clouding" by making every tag the same size regardless of # of occurrences.

I guess the point is that it seems to be a disadvantage that there isn't a way to tell if an article is published or not without checking through the entire category on the front end to make sure it isn't there. In core Joomla, when an article is unpublished through the Finish Publishing feature, you can see that it is not published by looking through the Article Manager in the back end and, in fact, even has a distinct icon associated with it. In K2, the articles all still show as published with a green checkmark and the Admin has no way to know what articles are actually showing on the site.

Well I spoke too soon on this patch, now that i've looked at more of it and actually did a test, I can see that the problem is more complicated, and seems to be related to the use of the JTable. I'll post a follow up on this issue.

David R. said:I can tell you what to hack to allow the hyphens, but I have no idea if there's any particular reason the hyphen is disabled, so use at your own risk.
In the /administrator/components/com_k2/models/item.php file at around line 576 or so you'll find this line:

$tag = str_replace('-','',$tag);

Comment it out like so:

//$tag = str_replace('-','',$tag);